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(RNS) The bios of the musicians who make up Micah's Rule read like many country/inspirational Christian artists. But what they don't mention is that the musicians are an openly gay man, transgender woman and a lesbian.

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  1. It’s difficult to take a biblical stand and speak up, when you see stories like this. These are stories of real people, real people of faith wanting to make a difference with their singing gifts. They’ve been through a lot, and want to be heard, as we all want to be heard.

    And yet, what they’re singing, is NOT in line with Scripture, the word of God. The God they sing about, is NOT the unstoppable, unlimited, “nothing is too hard for Me” God of Jer. 32:17. The Jesus they sing about is NOT the same unstoppable, unlimited Jesus who cleansed, washed, healed and delivered the ancient Corinthians (some of whom were into homosexual sin) in 1 Cor. 6:9-11.

    Their God is not the One who has “God has made a way of escape” from ANY temptation in 1 Cor. 10:13. In their world, homosexuality ultimately has the final say, not God, not Jesus, not Scripture. And Christians have to stand up, gently, maybe painfully, and say, and sing, “NO, the Lord Jesus Christ, the God of all comfort, offers us better than that.”

    • “Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. 1 Cor 6:9-10

      • So, you’re also going to go on hate-filled missions to pass legislation and kick out all those people, too, right? I mean, all kids who have sex before marriage, they gotta go, and people who cheat, they can’t be allowed, either – and you’ll have to put the same passion behind those who are jealous, or drink beer, and used car salesmen, and anyone else who feeds their family in anything less than a 100% moral occupation, and you’ll need to kick out all the people who worship sunday football like a religion, too. ALL of them should be treated EXACTLY THE SAME, RIGHT?

      • Andrew it isn’t that GOD is as you ask quote….”Has it occurred to you that maybe God isn’t the hateful jerk that you seem to want him to be?”….. unquote.
        YHVH from the dawn of time gave HIS instructions as to how man is to live and what he is not permitted to do > the sin of homosexuality is a sin against GOD and against a person’s own body, YHVH created man and woman as partners YHVH Himself calls homosexuality an abomination in HIS eyes and HE cannot go against HIS own word

    • I totally agree with you. Sometimes I have to really stop myself and re-orient myself Scripturally. It’s difficult sometimes, when you read or hear about people who are struggling with the same things you are, the lines get blurred and you just have to go back to the Biblical world-view.

    • You cannot honestly and truly be a child of YHVH and be a practicing Gay, transgender or lesbian what does 1 Cor 6: 9-11, homosexuals and such like will not enter the kingdom of heaven and will find them selves in hell if they die in this unrepentant state. YHVH’S word has never nor can it change. YHVH does not lie

  2. Whenwillwestandup

    1 Brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.

    2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.

    3 For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.

    4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

    5 For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.

    6 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)

    7 Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)

    8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;

    9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

    10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

    11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

    12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

    13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

    14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

    15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

    16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?

    17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

    18 But I say, Have they not heard? Yes verily, their sound went into all the earth, and their words unto the ends of the world.

    19 But I say, Did not Israel know? First Moses saith, I will provoke you to jealousy by them that are no people, and by a foolish nation I will anger you.

    20 But Esaias is very bold, and saith, I was found of them that sought me not; I was made manifest unto them that asked not after me.

    21 But to Israel he saith, All day long I have stretched forth my hands unto a disobedient and gainsaying people.

    • “Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. 1 Cor 6:9-10

  3. David Levandusky

    They are worthy of God’s love. And so are all their critics as well. The road they are walking is really what they are promoting and that road is the promoting of the homosexual lifestyle – with christian music backing it up. Jesus said by their fruits you shall know them. And the fruit they are producing is reinforcing people or introducing people into homosexuality as a valid lifestyle. So contrary to Scripture. Yes they are worthy of God’s love but so is the adulterer, murderer, thief, slanderer, and any other sinful person regardless of the sin in their life – including the religious hypocrits. Jesus loves them all but does not condone the sin in their life. Thats what he died for to deliver them from sin not to forgive them and keep them in living in it. Tit 2:11, 12 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; …” Grace teaches us to deny ungodliness and worldly lusts, not to keep practicing it. To love mercy and do justice as the book of Micah says would be to live out Titus 2:11 and 12. From our Biblical Christian perspective we can say to the Micah band, We love you with the love of Jesus and desire that you bring forth fruits worthy of repentance.Matt. ch. 3

    • but what about where in the bible it says being transformed by the renewing of your mind. Or putting off the old man. Forgiveness through faith..we all know these things, but when you are not trying to be in the will of God, but as 3 For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God. like my dude above said. We in the church can love, but we have to mindful of the people we allow to represent us in position. It makes us all seem like hypocrites.

    • David Levandusky,
      “promoting of the homosexual lifestyle-with christian music backing it up”?? I’m confused Mr. Levandusky as how can this be christian music when the Word speaks ‘against’ their lifestyle?? Where are God/Jesus truly in the midst of ‘our’ rebellious lives? When ‘They’ say NO to something we have yet to realize it’s for our own ‘good’. I know they didn’t ask to be gay or straight but as the bible says, “for we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places” Ephesians 6:12. This not only goes for homosexuality but other sins as well. My heart goes out to them but if they really do love and serve the Savior as they ‘say’ they do, then they’ll remember this scripture verse as well, “Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creation; old things are passed away; behold, all things become new” 2 Corinthians 5:17. Please note the ‘wording’ here?? Continuing in prayer for them all.

  4. To those who disapprove: You have condemned this group on one thing, and that is your assumption that these three children of God are having sex you believe the Lord has forbidden. But the article says nothing about their personal lives, and being LGBT is not about sex, it’s about who you are attracted to, *whether or not you ever act on that attraction*. For all we know, these three are living celibately. But even if they have partners, God still loves them *just as they are*.

    Yet you condemn them for mere feelings.

    • IF, as you suggest they are living celibate lives, then why the need to expose their sexuallity at all? Why make it an issue? No, they are proud of the fact that they live a preverse and sinful lifestyle, and they along with those who support them, are trying to push their agenda on the true Bible believers. The acceptance that they receive in this life will be replace with judgement in the next unless they repent.

    • “Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. 1 Cor 6:9-10

    • I haven’t read anything condemning in these posts. They ARE quoting Scripture which is NOT the same thing as a personal belief. The bottom line is that God himself does not approve of sin in any form. He doesn’t just turn a blind eye… wink-wink… well.. I’ll let that one slide… That would make Him no god at all. No one, from what I’ve read in these posts, are using their own feelings to judge something about what God has forbidden.. It’s in Scripture. We don’t have to have “feelings” about it. It’s in black and white, or sometimes red. It’s a behavior that is condemned in both Old and New Testaments. It’s also lumped in with other sins such as anger, lying, stealing, etc. God calls it an abomination, a turning from “natural desires” to “unnatural desires”. I work with and are friendly with several gays. I like them very much. Do I agree with their chosen lifestyle? No. I don’t. Much as I love my children but don’t agree with some of the decisions that they make. As for making judgements… yes.. we ARE called to make judgements about those who would put themselves out there as an example of Christ. We are called to seek that which is righteous and holy, something we can’t do unless we judge those things to be righteous vs unrighteous and holy vs unholy. No one likes to be called out because of their sin and Christians are increasingly being marginalized and branded as intolerant, judgmental and hypocritical when we DO call out sin. When you have people who are putting themselves out there, yet are living counter to Scripture, then we should be running the other way.

      • Why did god create grace ??? Because he knew sin was gonna be apart of us.. What’s the point in grace and the cross ?? Apparently everyone is still going to hell according to most judgemental Christians maybe we don’t understand grace enough I never wanted same sex attractions but it has happened to me.. And yes I have tried every self help book and reached out for 10 years to god and I believe maybe he doesn’t wanna help me change cause maybe I don’t need to as his grace saves me

        • Whenwillwestandu

          “1Well then, should we keep on sinning so that God can show us more and more of his wonderful grace? 2Of course not! Since we have died to sin, how can we continue to live in it? 3Or have you forgotten that when we were joined with Christ Jesus in baptism, we joined him in his death? 4For we died and were buried with Christ by baptism. And just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glorious power of the Father, now we also may live new lives.5Since we have been united with him in his death, we will also be raised to life as he was. 6We know that our old sinful selves were crucified with Christ so that sin might lose its power in our lives. We are no longer slaves to sin.” Romans 6:1-6 (NLT)

        • All so called christians that are living the sin that our bible teaches against need to get back on their knees repent and get back on the straight and narrow.It does not say its ok to “straddle the fence”.I don’t believe got made us to be in or marriaged to a same sex relationship we were put here to reproduce and fill the earth created by our maker.We as Christians don’t need to criticize but to pray for our brothers and sisters to open their eyes to the truth and pray the devil and I quote a friend “sit down and think about his future!”Mine is in the grace of God in his glory I will perish.It’s all about what our precious God wants not the world-I don’t care about the world I care about pleasing my Saviour! We need to get back onto the real word not the world word!God Bless!

      • It’s not “quoting scripture” it’s YOUR personal belief that a person cannot be as God made them. YOU Jesusgirl04, I could call a boitch, and I will, don’t like someone who is different from you, nor do you actually know what those verses you like to quote actually mean. Get an education, away from fundies and maybe you’ll have your eyes opened to the REAL love of GOD the father. You fundies are all cultists and have no brains to think for yourselfs. As for the group……go for it my brother and sista’s!

    • “are an openly gay man, transgender woman and a lesbian.” Last time recall “OPENLY” means that they are sexually active and have not repented. So this makes it the sin. It’s not just these people in the band, but every person who has not repented and asked God for forgiveness a sinner.

  5. Whenwillwestandup

    It is not that anyone is condemning anyone. The bible has stated clearly what is true. We have to live by it. We cannot forsake the will and plan of God because the world is doing it’s thing. We have to live in this world true enough, but the world is going to be the world. We the church have to lift a standard and look to God for what is HOLY and ACCEPTABLE. Not our own understanding.

    • But most people go off there own understanding when it comes to the bible how do you know you are reading it in the right context ?? I’m gay and I believe god loves me and I love him heaps I wanted to walk away from him but can’t doesn’t it says that god so loved the world who ever believes in him shall have eternal life ?

      • Whenwillwestandu

        You are absolutely correct. Jesus does love you! but Jesus also said, if you love me you will keep my commandments. It’s not about Him loving you. Paul said, that the Lord died for the ungodly, but he comes back in the next chapter and says, can we continue in sin, so that grace may be abound? God Forbid.

        You quoted John 3:16 :) I am happy you know that beautiful verse. But that verse is always read without any one reading the rest. There is more to this chapter that is important.

        17 “God sent his Son into the world not to judge the world, but to save the world through him.18“There is no judgment against anyone who believes in him. But anyone who does not believe in him has already been judged for not believing in God’s one and only Son. 19 And the judgment is based on this fact: God’s light came into the world, but people loved the darkness more than the light, for their actions were evil. 20All who do evil hate the light and refuse to go near it for fear their sins will be exposed. 21But those who do what is right come to the light so others can see that they are doing what God wants.” John 3:17-21 (NLT)

        This is the word that I have for you. Love is true and God does love you.

        21“Not everyone who calls out to me, ‘Lord! Lord!’ will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Only those who actually do the will of my Father in heaven will enter. 22On judgment day many will say to me, ‘Lord! Lord! We prophesied in your name and cast out demons in your name and performed many miracles in your name.’ 23But I will reply, ‘I never knew you. Get away from me, you who break God’s laws.’ Matthews 7: 21-23 (NLT)

        I promise all that I say is not from my heart, but the word of God. I pray you live a long healthy life. And that what God has given to me has helped you.

        Bro I have been fighting my own sins. I was addicted to porn and fornication. I had a talk to the Lord and He gave me understanding that what I was doing was against what his will and ways. I understood from HIS word that I may love these things, and want to be in these things, but they are not in his will and they were sending me on a one way trip to hell. I tell you this because I understand that struggle of sexuality and its sins. I understand the pain and frustration of wanting to do what is against God because it feels right. That is the same mentality that cause the fall of man in the first place. The tree looks good so eat it right?

        • Get the book, “What the Bible Really Says About Homosexuality” by Helmeniak; read it, and then come back and talk to us who know Christ Jesus as out Saviour and Lord even though we are gay.
          I truly do not expect you to publish this comment. Surprise me!

  6. more subtle confusion from the devil. These are real peopel with real lives and they want to live a life of faith,. But when we open God’s word if our lives do not line up with it, we are deceived. satan is the slickest con of all and that is why we must constantly JUDGE OURSELVES in light of the Holy Word of God. Transgendered….homosexuality…fornicator.. adulterer…..the church is awash in such sexual sins. The enemy of our soul uses these fleshly sins and the shedding of innocent blood (abortion, murder, etc). to make great inroads into mankind. Oh that we could seek to please the LORD instead of our lusts. I have been divorced for 5 years and have not even had a date ( or a kiss or sex) so I know the struggle of the flesh.

    This band will just confuse believers even more as everyone does what is “right in his own sight”. We need to lift up the WORD OF GOD AS THE STANDARD!!

  7. If we just take the music alone, “Imagine” by John Lennon is, for me, one of the most Godless songs ever written. And doesn’t the Lord Himself talk about the road being wide put the path being narrow?

  8. Would love all you scripture quoting people to walk in the shoes of someone who struggles with homosexuality do you think I want to feel this way ?? Do you think I woke up one day saying I want to be gay ?? Do you know what it is to spend 10 years trying to change with gods help and not ??? Maybe God did create me this way I don’t know my journey is still happening but quit quoting your scriptures until you have walked in our shoes it’s not an easy road and every time I reach out to other Christians for help they act like its to hard for them or they don’t have time so maybe spend your time loving and helping people and get off your high horse with your scriptures..

    • Whenwillwestandu

      You want us to stop quoting scripture because it makes you uncomfortable? The word of God is a two edged sword. If you speak the scripture it doesn’t just cut into the spirit of the person who is receiving; it also cuts the person who is speaking.
      We all have a struggle, and one is not more greater than the other. But the thing is when you start to believe that just cause you struggle, God is telling you to fall.

      God is not a man that He should lie; nor an angel to be put ashamed. God would not create anything that goes against his will. God is light and in HIM is no darkness. God hates sin and he cast out anything that rebels against His perfect order. Surely we both know that.

      And weather or not a person wakes up gay is not the problem. When He knows the truth and He continues to rebel against righteousness, and going about to establish his view of whats right, he [man] is a place of getting himself into trouble with God. It happen in the garden and downward. I pray that everyone is able to say no to sin and die from sin and live a sinless life.

      Including myself.

      • No — he doesn’t want you to stop *quoting* scripture. He wants you to stop *mis*-quoting scripture. Big difference. Cherry-picking bits and pieces in isolation from the Whole (and often even doing it from sub-part translations to boot) is not going to give you the will of God.

        For one thing — that one person who keeps quoting over and over and over that 1 Cor 6:9-10 doesn’t realize that they mis-translate “boy-lovers” to “homosexuals”. In reality, though, the two are not the same thing. Boy-lovers are truly diabolical people —- grown men who try to have sex with pre-pubescent boys are down-right sickening. But they exist – and it is *they* that are being referred to here. They exist today — but today, they are at least reviled as the perverts they are. At the time Paul was inspired by God to write that scripture, though, that was the time of the Roman Empire, where such perverse behavior was in fact condoned – even exalted by the authorities.

        And there is another part where Paul writes in condemnation of orgies — which is *another* passage that the neo-Shamaians regularly twist into being against homosexuality. What do I mean by “neo-Shamaian”? Well —- if you don’t know who Hillel and Shamai were, you obviously do not have the scholarly background to be interpreting writings from about that time.

        But many people read the New Testament, are all smug when Jesus criticizes the Pharisees by placing burdens on others that they do not face — yet seem to think it’s A-okay when they do the same thing —- saying “Oh, we’re just telling you honestly what the Bible teaches”. Well —- let me ask you this —- if Jesus’s warning to the Pharisees is *not* to be seen as a cautionary warning in how one approaches exegesis, then what exactly *do* you make of this criticism He makes of them?

  9. The Bible is not a bag of trail mix, you cannot pick and choose what you want to believe out of it and what you don’t. The Word of God CLEARLY states many times over that homosexuality, either man or woman, is an abomination, and it also states that for a man to wear a woman’s clothes or vice versa is also a sin. It is not intolerant to stand for the truth of God’s Word. I do NOT hate homosexuals, TG, etc, but I certainly do hate their sin because it is abominable to God and a deception from the pits of Hell that will drag them right down to it and God does not wish that ANY should perish. I will be praying that they are all delivered from their deception.

  10. Since when did the church become ONLY as a museum for the do gooders?
    Isn’t the church suppose to be a place for those to heal and become a better person?

    If you want someone to be a better person, I think condemning them at every chance isn’t exactly the best route to take.

    (Those without sin cast the first stone).

    Perhaps look at the good that they may be doing vs their personal acts that you happen to not agree with. I’m sure that you have a few that others wouldn’t like either.

    These comments are pushing people from the church – those same ones that you want to change their ways. How could they if everyone is the way that they are (above comments).. It is like telling an alcoholic all their misdoings and errors instead of lending a helping hand. Doesn’t work their either.

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