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(RNS) When Pope Francis said believers and atheists can agree on the goal of doing good, and that even atheists were part of Christ's redemption, atheist leaders say this is the kind of pope they can work with.

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  1. katherine appello

    No, the blood of Christ does not wash away the sins of those who reject him, live purposely in sin and do not claim Christ as personal savior. If doing good was all it took, then there would have been no need for Jesus. We can disagree with atheists and they with us, but to say all are saved just because they are charitable and nice is bogus Christian teaching.

    • Timothy Riches

      Seriously, think about what your metaphor says about you. You are washed in the blood of someone who was sent to be brutally executed. This was the best your God could come up with? LEND his ‘son’ so that bronze-age peasants wouldn’t have to be burned for all eternity, just because they were born as filthy scum? What are we, bloody Mayans?

    • Far out, I see you’re part of the problem. The thing about this statement (from il Papa) is that they’re simply words. If the Church actually does something I’ll be more impressed.
      Also Katherine, so you’re saying being Christian is what MAKES you charitable? Does it also keep you from stealing, raping and killing? If that is the case then you have problems. As an Atheist I have stolen, raped and killed all I’ve ever wanted to….and that number is ZERO! lol sheesh. I still disagree with religion and this is clearly an attempt to make it seem like “god” is responsible for everything again, but whatever, Katherine, you’re a super dumb dumb

    • Everyone has the right to believe in whatever they want, doesn’t matter how stupid it might be. However, attacking homesexuals or killing people in the name of that belief is not only illegal but also immoral… Religions focus on laws created by their imaginary leaders -god, and have nothing to do with morality. All gods are described by their own followers as narcissists, cruel, impatient, and ignorant of any reality. I think the above title should read: Atheists “feel relieved” by what they see in Pope Francis… instead of the word “like”.. I personally would never like the idea that so many people on this planet have virtually no grasp of reality…

  2. katherine appello: “but to say all are saved just because they are charitable and nice is bogus Christian teaching.”

    Well then become Pope and change the rules. LOL

  3. What I find fascinating is the confidence with which religious people, like Ms. Appello above, can talk about stuff that they cannot possibly have any clue about. Not only she knows what effect the blood of Christ will have on different categories of people, but she knows it better than the Pope or anyone else who knows otherwise. Even if they all know it from the very same book. I think this kind of arrogant, self-reliant “knowledge” is the very essence of faith. I wonder, is humility at all compatible with faith?

  4. Everyone has the right to believe in whatever they want, doesn’t matter how stupid it might be. However, attacking homesexuals or killing people in the name of that belief is not only illegal but also immoral… Religions focus on laws created by their imaginary leaders -god, and have nothing to do with morality. All gods are described by their own followers as narcissists, cruel, impatient, and ignorant of any reality. I think the above title should read: Atheists “feel relieved” by what they see in Pope Francis… instead of the word “like”.. I personally would never like the idea that so many people on this planet have virtually no grasp of reality…

  5. Wow. All I see are hateful and hurtful comments. The Pope is trying to say that whatever is good, noble, loving, and encouraging is from the one who created such virtues- God, a Creator. If the mere notion of this makes you angry or the need to retaliate with hurtful words, then that is a prejudice. It would be similar to a slave owner 200 years ago hearing something good about a slave, and his blood boiling at the mere notion of such a claim. Likewise, looking back on the actions of some “religious” as being proof that a faith in any God or Gods creates bad human behavior is silly at best. By the same rationale, bad human behavior proves that ALL HUMANS are bad; therefore, denouncing any form of Humanism. Hate is plainly seen.

  6. If an atheist does good works and is charitable toward others, then God is acting through him or her. However, good works are insufficient for salvation. If the atheist should repent, however, and believe in Jesus Christ, then salvation may yet be attained.

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