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VATICAN CITY (RNS) After years of simmering tensions with Pope Benedict XVI, Jewish groups say they have a partner in Pope Francis following their first official meeting on Monday.


  1. It is so obvious: Jesus was Jewish and most of His followers were Jewish (exceptions were Greeks like Luke but they were practicing the Jewish religion until 50 AD — the first council in Jerusalem — which is about circumcision). The last supper is the Passover Seder. St.Paul was a Pharisee before his conversion. The “Lamb” is the Passover Lamb (are you in the Lamb’s Book of Life??) Three of the gospel writers are Jewish (Matthew, Mark, John). How any Christian can miss that is a wonder (you cannot know enough to BELIEVE the gospels and hence BE a Christian ) so hating Jews is to hate Jesus and His followers .. and to hate the very basis of Christianity .. so it is absolutely true: IS IS INCOMPATIBLE. It is incongruent.. a contradiction in terms.

    • Hating itself .. I will add .. in antithetical with Christianity. Faith, hope and love.. and the greatest of these is love. It is antithetical to Christian doctrine (Jesus’s teaching) to hate, to seeth, to begrudge … he teaches us to love our neighbor, give a man your cloak, forgive the harlot, the golden rule .. when you say “I believe in Jesus Christ” .. it cannot be true unless you believe in His teaching and His commandments to you.. if you believe what He taught then you are not hating or hateful. [we have all known some and wondered HOW does that person consider themselves Christian?? Because they are no Christian)

  2. Religion student

    Old Dude, I just wanted to point out to you that Paul never converted. Christianity didn’t differentiate as a separate religion from Judaism until 100 CE. Paul is believed to have died around 67 CE. The talk of Paul converting to Christianity came about because of antisemitism. He did convert Gentiles to be followers of Christ, but the concept of Christianity never existed in his time.

    • Well not quite .. there was continuous transition from the periiod right after the ascenscion (Acts 1 .. 33 AD .. 40 days after the resurrection well into the 5th century). Paul was CHANGED on the Damascus road. He articulates a FAITH in Jesus and the Trinity (ah this is not Jewish it is new faith .. a different faith in a Triune God!!!) Paul articulates this 1 corinthians and throughout his Epistles. There is a meeting in 50 AD when the Apostles discuss circumcision and realize it is not part of their faith (any more) .. it was part of the Jewish religion. The “creed” or “Apostles Symbol” is well defined by 67 AD when Paul is beheaded and is clearly held by the other Apostles and followers. AFTER 100 AD the Apostles are all gone and THEN disputes arise and canons are formed (Irenaeus) and “Apostolic succession” and there are THEN rites (like mass) and a *religion* is emerging BASED on the faith (the belief) .. the creed and the new and everlasting covenant with many, the resurrection, the great commission (all of which was well defined in the Apostles Symbol or creed). As rites and canons emerged there were differences which broke out into *heresies* and ultimately DIFFERENT religions within the Christian faith and that was the second and third centuries leading to the council of Nicea .. (end of reply)

  3. There are more than 1100 Christian denominations (religious bodies). It’s embarrassing actually. There are a whole array of “eastern” denominations and then another array of denominations in Latin Christendom (mostly the consequence of the Reformation). It is a separate study .. so not to be unraveled here. All claim to believe the tenets of the Nicene Creed (Filioque omitted) and so there is ONE faith. Popular discussion lumps all denominations into a pigeon hole called “organized religion” but that is actually very sloppy. The distinction is, however, ONE faith (the creed) and many denominations. Each denomination is predicated on a variety of “isms” that are man-made (and void) .. Calvinism, Fundamentalism, Catholicism, Mormonism and so on .. and so each can argue that it alone walks the true path (none do, actually, but Jesus said “preach the gospel and whomever believes is Christian” .. believes the CREED. .. you CAN believe the CREED and be Amish or Roman Catholic or Greek Orthodox or Russian Orthodox of Reformed Church or Methodist or Baptist .. (the rest you will dig out for yourself)

  4. There must be an error in your headline, which does not even match the story. I have read all the press releases I can find on this and there is nothing in what Pope Francis said or even hinted that could be construed as a statement about the two faiths being “incompatible.”

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