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  1. Zig Misiak the ‘real’ TONTO, a new book July 19 2013 biography of Jay Silverheels, TONTO: The Man in Front of the Mask, http://www.realpeopleshistory.com/tonto.html

    This new book will help separate fact from fiction and help others, other than babyboomers who already know, understand the original Tonto aka Jay Silverheels. The book is respectful of the Native/First Nations perspective and portrayal as Jay’s relatives were interviewed and validated the information.
    To know the 2013 Tonto you have to know the ‘original’ Tonto aka Jay Silverheels from the 50′s movies……in order to make an informed decision and subsequent comments about the Depp version.

  2. David Thompson

    Your spoiler worked. I now have no interest in seeing the movie. Not because of religion bashing; that’s the only redeeming quality, but it just seems too convoluted and puerile to spend $100 on tickets, sodas and popcorn for the family. Thanks for your review.

  3. I have seen the movie and I loved it. It is played for laughs. if you want a true Lone Ranger, like the old TV series, don’t go see it. But if you want to just be entertained and laugh, it is a fun movie. As for the scene on the train. Have you ever heard a white protestant church group singing beautifully in a movie? No, you haven’t. This movie is no different than movies like Places in the Heart, Sgt. York, Shenandoah, or any other movie in which the white congregation sings. As for the Indian beliefs, it is very obvious that they are just being made up by Tonto. You cannot go into this movie expecting to learn something about the Lone Ranger story. Just have fun and don’t take anything seriously. And for heaven’s sake,don’t look for something that doesn’t exist.in the movie, like Christian bashing.

    • Why aren’t there more movie making fun of Jews? Perhaps they have too much dignity to mock themselves? But they love mocking Whites and Whites love to be mocked, evidently. And humor is so, so important. Far more than Dignity, evidently. As long as you laugh at the right White People – Conservatives, Christians – Racists in other words.J

      • The Other Person

        Ummm… have you never seen a Mel Brooks movie? He pokes fun of his own people all the time, in almost every single movie he’s ever done. And he’s not the only one.
        Pagans get “demonized” all the time in entertainment, not even in a joking manner. Where’s your outrage?
        Your post is at best hypocrisy.

    • One of the problems in America is everyone is too busy having fun and just wanting to be entertained. I guess we will get serious when it is too late. I pray you are not too disappointed in the final judgement, it wont be a lot of fun for most.

  4. My wife and I went to see this movie yesterday ($15, including popcorn and ice water). We did not go to see and inspirational movie or a genuine retelling of the original—which I listened to on the radio and watched on the family’s first B&W TV in the early 50s. This was a spoof from beginning to end. It was slapstick funny—modern vaudeville on the big screen—nothing more.

    As far as Christian bashing, that has been a common theme in TV and movies for at least 40 years. It has become more vitriolic and desperate, but Satan knows his attack on Christians in all circumstances is a sum-zero game. In the end, he will have nothing—less than nothing—and the whole world will stand before the Great White Thone.

    When Elmer Gantry came out, I saw what I knew to be the greedy, carnal side of popular Christianity—flashy preachers in thousand dollar suits, thousand dollar shoes and thousand dollar gold watches. The world saw it as well.

    “Put your hands on the TV and ask G— to heal you!”
    “Send me $20 and I’ll send you a prayer cloth blessed on the Mount of Olives.”
    “Send in five dollars and I will send you an free autographed picture of Jesus Christ.” (I heard this very con on the radio when I was 10 years old.)

    In the largest Baptist church in town when I was in high school, the church secretary got pregnant by the music director—both married to someone else. Then there’s the epidemic of child abuse by Catholic priests that has gone on as long as there’s been Catholicism. On one hand, carnal Christianity has set itself up for ridicule by the world, and by extension, Satan.

    So, I’m not too bothered by the world’s attacks on Christians. Jesus said the world would hate us because they hated Him first. I’m more concerned about the Christian corporation that is called “church”—that supplies the world with fodder to attack us.

    We love the Lord Jesus Christ. We donate to worthy Christian organizations rescuing starving children and persecuted Christians in the Middle & Far East and preaching the Gospel and distributing Bibles to Muslims in Turkish refugee camps. But I do not give a dime to big box churches with million dollar budgets. I cannot find justification for that in the Bible. I’m not questioning anyone’s salvation, just unscriptural programs and financing.

    The bottom line here is that a movie full of satire for everything and everyone, including itself, is not a major cause of concern for me.

    • Again, I’m grateful for your statement. It is clear that some people want to make trouble where it really doesn’t exist. We must be on our toes when it comes to anti-Christian rhetoric, but this reviewer is stooping pretty low to find something, anything about which to complain. Mr. Weiss might as well be running through the streets wild-haired and screaming “heathens” himself. For Heaven’s Sake!

  5. Wow! This is why I never pay any attention to supposed critics. Not everything has to be a lesson in morality, religion, ethics, history, or anything else for that matter. It’s Hollywood for crying out loud! Sometimes you just want to be entertained and leave all the nervous lip biting about the world today alone for a little while. For all intents and purposes, I’m as big a believer in Christianity as there is these days, and I was not offended nor did I take any great lesson or message out of what had me laughing and enjoying myself for nearly the whole movie. What a lot of nonsense to try and ascribe hidden meanings to something like this. I thought it was great fun and am not any the less for having viewed it. LOL

  6. The movie was great entertainment…just what it was meant to be. I don’t go to movies for a message or social commentary or any kind and am most annoyed by Hollywood when it tries to convert me to the “green movement” or some such. Personally, I positively believe that the “low box office” The Lone Ranger has received is directly related to the ridiculously biased “reviews” by individuals who think all movies should be “art house” dribble.

  7. I don’t intend to see the movie. Hollywood is so bereft of good ideas that all they can come up with frequently is movies about radio shows and comic book characters.
    The world is full of exciting people and events, both current and past, so, one would think that better movies could be made, as in the 1930′s and 1940′s.

    Alas and alack, it is not happening.

  8. You know what is slapstick? The word “tonto” translated from spanish to english means “fool”. So the laugh about the lone rangers side kick being a tonto in the old television series is even better in this movie since tonto is certifiably a fool!

  9. Although there is a veiled attempt to attack Christianity, the Presbyterian pastor’s attempt to free the Indian from the Comanche tribe beliefs and practices.was not a failure. Missionaries who worked among the Indians have completely modernized and civilized them.They are no more enslaved by cruel tribal rituals and superstition.

  10. I’m disgusted that people can be so rude as to actually leave comments that disrespect the writer of this review. If you want to write your own atheist view on this movie or on Christian ideals, find a blogsite or a review site and write your own. Don’t try to insert it as a “comment” under someone else’s post. And don’t keep coming back two or three times to reititerate your point and then to try to get everyone to join on your “band wagon” of thought. Again, write your own blog. There are plenty of opportunities.

    • The Other Person

      Oh this is nothing.
      You should see all the hatred and vile “Christians” randomly post on sites for atheists, Pagans, and others.
      You’re not special, contrary to your own deluded belief. All faiths (and non-faiths) deal with it.

      Besides, site needs a name change if it’s only for Xians. “Religion News” means all religions. Not just your “I believe it therefore it’s the only true religion” religion.

  11. Steve Barry (@uzh77)

    What, exactly, does this have to do with atheism? Just because it doesn’t pander to religion (in this case Christianity), it is somehow atheism? Look up ‘atheism’ in the dictionary.

  12. This movie was far more anti-religion than Mr. Weiss describes. The military general yells “for God and country” just before using machine guns to slaughter Indians. They purposefully focus attention on the lead villain praying grace before dining with his captive whom he hopes to take from the hero. The scene Weiss describes where the minister screams “heathens” is meant to depict Christians as intolerant since the mob is specifically upset that there was an Indian patron in the bar/brothel.

    • The Other Person

      So actually it’s depicting real life. Or you’re living in a cave and don’t realize it. Christians can be* some of the most intolerant people ever met, thanks to their “one true religion” delusion that they insist must be shoved down the throats of everyone else who hasn’t fallen for it.

      *Not lump-summing all of them.

  13. My pen is huge

    We saw the film this past Sunday, and even though it came out the weekend or two earlier, the theater was almost full. The audience laughed and clapped and a good time was had by all. Looking at most of the comments here, from Christians who haven’t even SEEN the film – their portrayal in the film was spot on. Hi Ho Silver!

  14. The problem sadly is that many Christians are “unattractive, ineffectual, hateful or flat-out hypocritically evil.” We get portrayed this way because we do little to change the minds of those who would criticize and after all, “art imitates life.”

  15. Good heavens, thanks so much for posting this! It’s gonna be so helpful when I am thinking about going to Tampa Theatre in Tampa! I am from Hamilton so I am not familiar with Tampa. Next time I visit my family will be much better! Very Fab!

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