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SALT LAKE CITY (RNS) The Mormons' involvement in the Hawaii gay marriage fight is far different in tenor and tactics than the 2008 all-out push to pass California’s Proposition 8.

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    • If you know the doctrine of mormonism. They believe in an eternal marriage. For those who are mormon and perceive themselves as gay, they could want to push for that. They are simply protecting that belief. Only a man and woman will have the right to be married for all time and eternity.

      • Marriage equality bills are very clear; religious institutions are not required to perform same sex marriages. I can’t for the life of me understand why a gay couple would want a religious ceremony anyway. These are the people that killed, humiliated and disowned gay people for centuries and STILL insist on refusing them rights because of THEIR beliefs. Mormonism already has the right to refuse marriage to heterosexual couples, how could they possibly think that they would have to marry same sex couples? If they’re members and believe in the churches teachings, then they believe that they should practice celibacy or just marry heterosexually regardless of disliking it (I was raised a Mormon and had some gay friends who were told exactly this – needless to say they left the church as soon as they became adults). Even if there is a gay member somewhere who wants to get married, Mormonism will not suddenly be required to marry them.
        Everyone can have their beliefs, no one wants anyone to change their personal opinion or stance on marriages. But we’re talking here about allowing every consenting adult the same access to a legally recognised, secure relationship. They’re going to be together anyway, they’re going to propose regardless, they’re going to call each other ‘husbands’ or ‘wives’ and live together and even have a ceremony that they will call a marriage. The difference is the legality and dignity. This does not impact you, your church or anyone else!

        • If anyone can actually read the full length of the Prop turned into the Hawaiian legislature, you would understand how anyone of a religious background could feel. I understand that everyone, every person has a choice in who they choose to marry. But in the proposition, it specifically states that ANY church will be FORCED to marry these individuals in their church of choice. AND if the Pastor, Bishop, Priest, or anyone will not authorize the marriage in that particular building, then that said person will be placed in JAIL. This right there takes away the freedom of that organization as well as the persons involved. I have no beef whatsoever with anyone who chooses differently than I do. I cannot cast the first stone because I am not free of sin, therefore judging another for their actions is not my place. However, taking a freedom away from someone else while trying to give a freedom to others, is not the way to go about it. If couples of the same-sex want to marry and have it be legal, great… But don’t take something from someone else in the process. Where is the equality in that?

  1. What the Mormons seem to fail to comprehend is that the 1st and 14th amendments of the United States Constitution work together to keep church and state separate: the state cannot force any sect to recognize in their houses of worship any form of marriage that is contrary to their stated religious beliefs (gay, between divorced people like the Catholic Church frowns on, whatever), that society at large has chosen to recognize in the world in general outside of those houses of worship.

    They’re going to have to come up with some better argument against same-gender marriage than “Our religion says it’s icky”.

  2. The letter did not tell members which side of the issue to take, only to study the church’s “The Family: A Proclamation to the World,” a document that endorses one man/one woman as the ideal for marriage.

    Jeeze, even I can see through that one.

  3. “The letter did not tell members which side of the issue to take, only to study the church’s “The Family: A Proclamation to the World,” a document that endorses one man/one woman as the ideal for marriage.”

    Jeeze, even I can see through that one.

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