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AUSTIN, Texas (RNS) “I have committed a grave error in judgment that I deeply regret,” minister-turned-atheist Teresa MacBain wrote. “While I did not do anything with malice or with intention to harm others, my actions were still wrong.”

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  1. Daniel Berry, NYC

    Well, misrepresentation of the truth isn’t exactly the exclusive province of non-believers: every day we read about so-called Christian clergy and other leaders putting out lies, misrepresentations and distortions about gay people, Muslims, liberals and anyone else they don’t agree with.

  2. This shows, along with the Catholic clergy sexual abuse, how very universal and ecumenical deceit and other corruption can be. It is up to every individual, in the outlook of ethics they maintain from all their life experience, to decide in each instance of behavior what is right and what is wrong.

    Lying is rather universally considered wrong, but even the Jesuits condone “white lies” on occasion under a theological category of mental reservations. Not that MacBain was “reserving” claims about her background rather than outright complying in their distortion for self-promotion “to do good”!

    It takes time for any claims to become confirmed by the support of facts, so it would be inappropriate to accuse Harvard or its humanist community of participation or laxity in MacBain’s distortions about her past. It was all MacBain’s fault, and Harvard acted in a timely and appropriate way.

    • Incredibly angry and distorted view of this event.

      1. She lied, and Harvard should’ve known better.
      2. She wanted to use the Harvard brand to sell atheism to schools.
      3. She did not possess the training or the stature she had represented.
      4. Believer-turned-atheist just wasn’t true. She was never even a minister!

      You try really hard to rationalize hers and Harvard’s outrageous actions. Are modern atheists so callow?

  3. Russell Thornberg

    Most professional organizations ask for transcripts and/or a diploma well before hiring an individual. That the Harvard Center did not do this speaks to the cronyistic culture of that organization as MacBain was not hired from a randomly generated pool of applicants but was hired based on her friendship with the director.

  4. Deacon John Bresnahan

    Harvard’s easy to gull, We in Ma. now have a Dem. liberal senator who “worked” her way up to Harvard by doing jujitsu with her family tree so she could take advantage of affirmative action programs for American Indians. But in this state gulling people for noble liberal purposes–no matter how fraudulent– gets one ahead. Harvard apparently never did check to see if Elizabeth Warren was entitled to be classified as an Indian for promotion purposes on her way up the academic ladder.

    • You made a number of allegations about Elizabeth Warren. You didn’t back them up with facts. Cite your sources. Defaming a politician is a game I don’t appreciate whether it’s Bush or Obama, or, in this case, Warren.

      • Deacon John M. Bresnahan

        One of the best accounts of Sen. Warren and her use of an alleged (but unsubstantiated) Indian heritage for advancement purposes is in the Washington Post of Sept. 27, 2012.
        My family feels strongly about her fraud and her excuses because my daughter IS married to a real Penobscot Indian and their children are authentic members of the Penobscot Tribe.

    • She’s from Oklahoma. A great deal of people from Oklahoma have Native American ancestors. Unfortunately, after the many atrocities committed, it’s no surprise that the registration of Native American tribes and members are not comprehensive, and many people aren’t counted as members, even though their families have such a history. Warren was told by her family that they have Native American ancestors, and although she never used that information to get into Harvard, she still has the right to claim that identity on the census and other forms.

      • Deacon John Bresnahan

        Hey! Great!! if great, great grandma tells us a legend about our family history, no matter how unsubstantiated, we can make affirmative action claims.
        Most tribes, including the Penobscot, have strict rules for being able to claim that you are genuinely full-blooded enough to legally call yourself an American Indian. Senator phony Hiawatha’s “heritage” came and went on forms and in publications resulting in helping both her and Harvard. (Harvard desperately needed a minority or two to not look like liberal hypocrites in hiring. Warren was just the ticket).
        The story is too long (and pathetic) to put it all in a combox, No wonder she was so embarrassed by her machinations that she refused to talk with Indians that were delegates to the Democratic Party Convention. (They only wanted to hear her side of the story from her own lips.)

  5. Undoubtedly, her former immersion in the fairy tale lies of organized religion has left her moral abilities weakened. I am sure with double doses of atheist reason, she will wake up to a stronger moral self.

    • Deacon John Bresnahan

      I’m sure she will learn a lot from atheist thinkers if she carefully studies the “great”
      religion-haters of the 20th Century– like Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Hitler. She can even learn how to build bigger and better gulags, concentration camps, crematoria, etc., etc.,etc.

      • When you say “great” I think you mean “notorious”. There is a difference. John Lennon was a greater thinker than your list, and he was an atheist. Also, you might wanna stop mentioning Hitler, because he was a catholic and wrote in his own memoirs that he believed he was doing god’s work by killing Jews. And if you want atheists to take ownership of those people (even tho their actions weren’t in the name of atheism), then you’ll have to take ownership of crusaders, inquisitors, jihadists, and the Phelps family. Fair is fair, buddy.

        • Deacon John M. Bresnahan

          My response was to strongly point out the fallacy in the comment that atheism will help the woman have “A stronger moral self??” and that religion had left “her moral abilities weakened.” What better proof is there that atheism does not automatically make people more moral than religious people (as claimed in the comment above attacking religious belief ) than the list of 20th Century atheistic mass murderer leaders (who had plenty of supporters of the same ideological persuasion)..
          It always amazes me to see some people on the internet constantly mention the Inquisition etc. (of centuries ago), but then get all furious when someone brings up modern 20th Century atheist anti-religious leaders whose record for killing makes any other historical statistics absolutely miniscule.
          The problem is that the 20th Century and its crimes ( mostly led by atheists) are being, for some reason, buried in George Orwell’s “Memory Hole” so that people are shocked to be reminded that atheism has failed as a solution to the disrespect for human life that has plagued humanity. Witness the millions of Ukrainians who were starved to death under Soviet atheistic communism. Or the uncounted (probably in the millions) Chinese killed in the atheistic Communist Great Leap Forward. Or the millions of Russians who disappeared in the atheist Soviet gulags. Or the thousands of priests who were killed or tortured in Hitler’s Dachau camp.
          Did those who perpetrated these crimes have a “stronger moral self” because they were atheist??

          • “Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.”
            Mein Kampf

            ::walks away, whistling::

          • Deacon John Bresnahan

            Sadly, It seems that some people appear unbothered by the Gulags, the Great Leaps Forward, the Red Guards, the Cambodian Killing Fields, the Ukrainian Starving, etc..
            But just as the Holocaust of the Jews should never be forgotten-a Holocaust organized and perpetrated by Nazi Germans to be historically accurate– (and no one seems bothered to state this accurate history repeatedly in books, movies, on the web, etc.
            –as it should be repeated lest we forget..).
            And to be historically accurate the killings I mentioned were mostly organized and perpetrated by people and organizations which were aggressively atheist (mostly fanatic atheistic Communists). But no one is supposed to mention that factual truth..
            However the truth about all mass killings should be repeated lest we forget any of them and see them repeated in the future.

      • You comment disgraces the word “deacon.” There is nothing to suggest she any admiration on her part for the dictators you trot out in the usual histrionic right wing mode. When did smearing someone and delighting in a basically good person’s fall become gifts of the Holy Spirit conferred on ordination to the diaconate. Criticism is justified,but not hateful comment you make. Why don’t you re-read the Scriptures on the gifts of the Holy Spirit?

  6. Ethical Culture and Unitarian Universalism both failed to establish and maintain communities of disbelievers. Paul Kurtz and the Humanist Manifesto crowd insinuated themselves into the Unitarian Universalists but could not maintain an inspiration from “Reason” that could still feed the sheep. Atheism is not new, and has had every opportunity to justify and legitimize itself over the centuries, to little avail. Its qualities were sharply noted by the father of the scientific method, Francis Bacon, in his essay “On Atheism” (1601):

    It is true, that a little philosophy inclineth man’s mind to atheism; but depth in philosophy bringeth men’s minds about to religion. …

    … atheists will ever be talking of that their opinion, as if they fainted in it, within themselves, and would be glad to be strengthened, by the consent of others. Nay more, you shall have atheists strive to get disciples, as it fareth with other sects. And, which is most of all, you shall have of them, that will suffer for atheism, and not recant; whereas if they did truly think, that there were no such thing as God, why should they trouble themselves? …

    The Indians of the West, have names for their particular gods, though they have no name for God, … which shows that even those barbarous people have the notion, though they have not the latitude and extent of it. So that against atheists, the very savages take part, with the very subtlest philosophers. …

    But the great atheists, indeed are hypocrites; which are ever handling holy things, but without feeling; so as they must needs be cauterized in the end. …

    The causes of atheism are: divisions in religion, if they be many; for any one main division, addeth zeal to both sides; but many divisions introduce atheism. Another is, scandal of priests; … A third is, custom of profane scoffing in holy matters; …And lastly, learned times, specially with peace and prosperity; for troubles and adversities do more bow men’s minds to religion.

  7. I have been involved with the non-theist community for a long time and I consider Teresa to by my friend. I don’t believe she meant any harm and I think it took a lot of courage to come clean right away instead of the normal denials we are used to hearing when someone is caught doing something wrong. She has instead taken full responsibility for her actions and apologized and accepted the consequences. I don’t think any prominent religious leaders have ever done that for any scandal (and more of their scandals are much worse than lying on a resume). Did the Pope Emeritus ever taken responsibility for moving pedophile priests around the world in order to avoid prosecution and obstruct justice?

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