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(RNS) What is this RFRA of which the Supremes speak? Stay with us and there’s ice cream, cake, a puppy and even hallucinogenic drugs in it for you.

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  1. Chaplain Martin

    Your “cute” explanation of the Supreme Court decision on Hobby Lobby case and RFRA was either cute nor very informative. RNS can certainly do better.

    • I think your comment should have been prefaced with, my opinion is. since you were only speaking for yourself and not for me. My opinion is that it was funny and informative, and I don’t care if you thought they could do better. See how that works.

    • Thanks for your article. It helped me a lot to put things in perspective, since all the articles that I’ve read presumed that the readers had knowledge on the law.

  2. Contrary to your first comment, I found this explanation very helpful for the non-expert. This is language I can reproduce in a conversation and be informative and useful. There are plenty of places to go for more depth so please do not hesitate to seek out other discussions but this one gave good value.

  3. chester fielder

    Q: Wait. Companies can practice religion?

    A: That’s the question at the heart of this case: Can a corporation be said to have religious practices? In this ruling the judges said yes, corporations, which are composed of people, can be said to have religious practices and sometimes those practices are worth protecting under RFRA.

    http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/13pdf/13-354_olp1.pdf

    HHS and the dissent nonetheless argue that RFRA does not cover Conestoga, Hobby Lobby, and Mardel because they cannot“exercise . . . religion.” They offer no persuasive explanation for this conclusion. The corporate form alone cannot explain it because RFRA indisputably protects nonprofit corporations. And the profit making objective of the corporations cannot explain it because the Court has entertained the free-exercise claims of individuals who were attempting to make a profit as retail merchants. Braunfeld v. Brown, 366 U. S. 599. Business practices compelled or limited by the tenets of a religious doctrine fall comfortably within the understanding of the “exercise of religion” that this Court set out in Employment Div., Dept. of Human Resources of Ore. v. Smith, 494 U. S. 872, 877. Any suggestion that for-profit corporations are incapable of exercising religion because their purpose is simply to make money flies in the face of modern corporate law. States, including those in which the plaintiff corporations were incorporated, authorize corporations to pursue any lawful purpose or business, including the pursuit of profit in conformity with the owners’ religious principles.

    • Corporations cannot exercise religious beliefs because there is no way to impute them to one without “piercing the corporate veil”.

      Religious beliefs have no rational connection to the operations and existence of a corporation. Incorporation is creating a legal barrier between an owner’s personal existence and a company’s operations. It is not its owners, it cannot adopt their religious beliefs from them. As a form of property that would mean a company converts religiously upon the sale of its stock. There is nothing rational about that premise.

      This is a stark contrast to speech and political involvement. All of which can be reasonably related to a company’s ability to operate and profit. Laws and regulations can be seen to have a direct effect on corporate actions. Religion at best can be marketing, but it has no inherent purpose for a for-profit corporation.

      SCOTUS contorted precedent to come up with the result they wanted. You can tell how gunshy they were about applying its ideas on an intellectual basis by how narrowly they said the decision was limited.

  4. This was better background and a clearer summary of the implications of the Hobby Lobby decision than any I have seen in other media so far, and I am talking about the Washington Post, the Times, TV news, etc. And it was funny. Keep on ‘splainin stuff Kimberly.

  5. So the key point of the RFRA that allowed this case to be heard is that it says if religion and government interest come into conflict then the government must use “least restrictive way in which to further the government interest”.

    The HHS wanted to fine Hobby Lobby $475 million per year. The cost of all their employees complete healthcare insurance was a third of that. if they dropped employee coverage and left their employees to buy their own insurance then they would have to pay a $26 million per year fine. The only reason why the Supreme Court even heard the case was the level of the fine that the Dept. of HHS wanted to levy. Had they given a reasonable fine then there would be no court case.

  6. This is why corporations should not have anything to do with people’s health care. Single payer! Everyone gets good health care. Equal health care.

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