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(RNS) The next religious liberties faceoff may be between LGBT workers and private business owners who, the Supreme Court says, have religious rights.


  1. If you must give up rights…your “religious liberty rights”, to win a gov contract….isn’t that an admission that the gov is limiting a freedom?

    Logically, if you must give up something to get access to the mobs money, isn’t that the same as saying they are taking it away from you? In order to further their agenda of the day?

    What about just plain and simple freedom for the worker and employee? Don’t they both have a choice regarding who the employ and who they work for? Let people make their own decisions and choices. Let people be personally responsible for their actions. Why the need to constantly intervene with gov power, a power exceeding that of the surrounding natural society?

    • You don’t have a religious right to discriminate. At will employment doesn’t absolve a company from complying with regulations affecting a business.

      As for the freedom of the worker and employee, thanks to bible thumpers with help by SCOTUS, that doesn’t mean squat anymore. they are officially conscripted to their employers religious beliefs.

      You want government money, a choice mind you that is far from compulsory, you have to play by their rules. If you can’t, don’t stick your hand out for it.

      • They are not “discriminating” against any of the protected classes of minority citizens, as this is about abortive birth control.

        Since its about abortive birth control, it cannot be about discrimination, unless you try to make it so to broader you case in a attempt to bolster it. This isn’t a quantum discussion, so it cannot logically be about two things at once.

        The evil hobby.lobby does provide preventative birth control in its plans. And preventative measures were never the issue in the case, nor was hobby lobby’s encumbrance to provide that cost for it employees, be they part of a federally protected or unprotected group.

          • Amazing observation. Which is probably why the case only covers paying for abortifacient devices and drugs. Yes, thanks to liberal indoctrination, determining what is abortive in nature also probably hinged on the legal definition of the term fetus.

            So go back to huffpo so they can tell you once again how and what to think. But by all means, get totally worked up now that we evil christians get to pick and choose which laws and regulations you can impose on us. I mean big time. A christian with the power to determine a christian course for their personal lives in america, and cast voted accordingly, is probably your worst nightmare. Be afraid.

          • Pamela Wheaton

            IUDs are most definitely abortive if the egg is fertilized when it hits the uterus. The argument is that life begins at conception and any action that terminates that life is abortive. IUDs work by irritating the thickening uterine wall to the point that it causes menstruation. It doesn’t differentiate between a fertilize and a non-fertilized ovum when doing its job.

        • That is only half true. The article is about applying “corporate religious” beliefs to discriminating against gay workers.

          As for abortive birth control, that is just Steve Green’s ignorance given weight by alleged religious belief. It’s a hair not worth splitting. Evil Hobby Lobby makes ignorant hypocritical decisions that violate notions of privacy of employees, the corporate veil, and religious freedom. Steve Green should not have been making ANY decision on what birth control is best for his workers.


    Christians love to screech that they are not pushing their
    religion on anyone else. They talk about god and free will and punishments
    after you die.

    But what they always want is power right here
    And right now
    over everybody else.

    “Is it not clear that the same power which can establish Christianity
    would be just as capable of establishing one sect of Christianity
    over another one?”
    (ANTI-THEIST founder of the United States)

    • There’s no need to do all that complaining. And there’s no need for those “LGBT workers” to do all that complaining, either.

      The Supremes simply said that Hobby Lobby won a tiny, TINY victory on just one issue: paying for contraceptives.

      Other than that, the Supreme Court has given the Gay Bullies and Gay Gestapo a blank check to do all the vicious dirt they wanna do on Hobby Lobby and any other Christian-owned business.

      Gay activists have no shame, and especially they have NO mercy, (and no and the SCOTUS (along with that turncoat pseudo-President who has effectively gone insane), have given them everything they want.

      So there’s no need to complain, it seems!

      • “Execute them in front of me” – Jesus (Luke 19:27)

        Gosh. What is there to complain about?
        How harmful can a little religion really be?

        • Pamela Wheaton

          Luke 19:27 is part of a parable. Jesus did say that, but it was part of a story to deliver a much larger message. To understand it as well as the other parables one must study Bible in its entirety. It doesn’t stand alone and that small piece was most definitely not a call by Jesus for an execution.

          • @Pamela Wheaton,

            Yes – you are correct that it is a parable.
            You are completely WRONG that this somehow means Jesus did not command executions!

            “..bring to me those enemies of mine who would not have me as their King and execute them in front of me.” – JESUS (Luke 19:27)

            OF LUKE 19

            Catholic Christ Notes – THE NOBLEMAN IS JESUS:







            Adolph Hitler:
            OUR Lord Jesus is a soldier for God

            “My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow my self to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice… And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows . For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.”
            -Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922

            ANY ‘clarification’ or defense of this disgraceful, immoral
            and pathetic JESUS
            is 2000 years too late!

          • @Pamela,

            The message of the Parable of the Minas is this:

            Obey your master or you will be executed.

            That is what Jesus was preaching to his disciple and it was understood very clearly because this parable has been used throughout history as the parable of the prophecy of the second coming when Jesus will execute his enemies.

            Shame on you for defending it.

      • Or as one snarky online commenter said,
        “The court found that corporations are people, but women are not”

        • Jamie Townsend

          Larry- Atheist Max and you are right regarding this Hobby Lobby thing – – this ruling is insane because it unfairly burdens women over men with medical problems..I dont think most Christians are paying any attention to the fine print of this. Typical!
          I’m a nonbeliever also but what bothers me is the complete burden lies on women. As usual. sucks being a woman even now.

    • You don’t sound all that different from the Christians you yell about when it comes to imposing power on others.

      • @John,

        Thanks for realizing that I have to fight for myself
        against your endless Christian crusader onslaught.

        Religion is fascist nonsense.
        The tyrant is the religion. To mutiny against the tyrant is to liberate oneself.

        If the religious would just get off my back maybe I could relax.
        Seem you can’t stop being a tyrant, though.

  3. Another headline in search of a story. Employment discrimination law in regard to non religious and for profit organizations has never been connected to RFRA and the Supreme Court isn’t interested in going there.
    There might be a challenge to the President’s executive order, but not on religious grounds.

  4. how would
    Gay Men
    be effected by laws on birth control? None of these people can give birth no matter how hard they try to with their respective partners.

    The only people of the LGBT Community that may be effected are Bisexuals….

    As far as I am concerned If you can not afford $19 a month out of your own pay to prevent a child then you can not afford the half a million dollars it will cost to raise a child … and you shouldn’t be having intercourse because it is not fair to the child.

    Just because you have sex organs does not mean you have the right to take lightly a child that may result from your stupidity.. and if you are that stupid then you are going to forget to take the pill or end up pregnant when you have to go off it….

    NOT TO EVEN MENTION these drugs are the reason breast cancer has skyrocketed in the past 40 years..

    Do so at your own risk on your own dime.. and don’t bring kids into this for any reason if you can not care for them..

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