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(RNS) China’s appalling religious freedom record underscores the obvious: Little has changed since Beijing shamed itself before the world 25 years ago, massacring its own people for the “crime” of demanding their rights.

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  1. I spent almost 8 months in China last year in Tianjin City and more disturbing to me then the recent persecution of Christians was the fact that most Chinese did not care about freedom at all…at least not the young people.I taught English as a second language 2 fairly wealthy people from ages 15 to 60. I tried to engage them n some political and religious discussions but they had no interest. In fact, I doubt that most of the young people today have any idea about Tianimen Sqquare. I realized that I can not want their freedom more than they do.

    • I doubt it’s lack of interest. My wife reads Mandarin and is frequently on WeiBo (Chinese Facebook). There’s a lot of political interest but it’s all in “code” as the censorship, both online and offline, is harsh.

      The reality is no one in China is safe to voice an opinion that’s not state approved. No one generally wants to rock the boat either so everyone clams up even when pressed, the reality is that many know the reality but are rightfully scared to stand up.

      • What you say is only true to a degree but many people like the current system and China’s current economic growth. Since they virtually have no concept of freedom they consequently have little concept or concern over having them violated. China has 1.5 Billion people so I am not trying to say that they ALL feel one way or another. The people I primarily met and worked with were wealthy college educated citizens.

    • ” I tried to engage them n some political and religious discussions but they had no interest. In fact, I doubt that most of the young people today have any idea about Tianimen Sqquare. I realized that I can not want their freedom more than they do.”

      Or maybe they were afraid of talking about such things with the loose-lipped American who doesn’t understand the level of repression that they deal with on a daily basis.

      • Larry…I’ll ignore your smart ass comment because you weren’t raised any better.I’ve been to over 45 countries so I know a helluva lot more than you about cultures and repression.I didn’t explain the circumstances under which our discussions took place, but trust me, it was a very safe venue. You also need to do some research on present-day China yourself.

        • “I didn’t explain the circumstances under which our discussions took place, but trust me, it was a very safe venue. ”

          If its within China, how would you know how safe it really is? At best you are just passing through there. You don’t have to live there. EVA-04 was saying that such discussions have to be veiled and coded because there is the feeling nobody is really safe to talk about such stuff.

          • My point exactly Larry. You have no idea what you are talikng about And you seem to have strong ideas based on heresay.

            You need to ask questions first before you make uniformed insulting personal statements. As I said I lived overseas for four years and I have been to 45-46 countries. I could explain more about why they are apathetic but you don’t seem to have any desire to learn

          • Larry…I don’t mean to be an ass but your personal insult stung. You xantq judge a country’s situation by what you see in the news. Before I went to China I had a student from Juarez Mexico who was afraid of the US because of what she saw in the news. The funny thing was at that time Juarez had the highest murder rate in the world.

          • You are a world tourist and had experience as an expatriate. I work with plenty of people who come to the US and stay for years and never pick up much about the culture or political situation. Living abroad doesn’t make you automatically “plugged in” to what really goes on.

            By your own admission the people you met were wealthy and educated. People who would naturally have a vested interest in being part of the system of the country. Probably the least likely to be dissenters because they benefit from the status quo.

            Most of what I know about China comes not only from the news but from people I know who were from there. I also have several relatives from both mainland China and Taiwan. Very different backgrounds, very different perspectives.

  2. Thankfully, God’s kingdom or heavenly government will soon put an end to all of man’s corrupt governments (Daniel 2:44).

    Meek mankind on earth will finally experience “real freedom” from all the terrible conditions we now face and enjoy the “real life” we were meant to live on earth (Isaiah 11:1-10; Revelation 21:1-4).

  3. JUST TO BE CLEAR:

    ATHEISTS ARE NOT IN FAVOR
    OF DESTROYING CHURCHES.

    What China is doing is an attempt to destroy and to REPLACE RELIGION
    with a FAITH in the state.

    What China is doing is FAITH.
    The separation of Church and State
    as found in the properly atheistic US Constitution
    with its Establishment clause
    is the best blend of religious freedom and government.

    Long live the Atheist US Constitution and the Establishment Clause which ensures freedom of religion.

    Americans, please KNOW how good you have it.

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